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| Horst_Koehler
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hello we are ready for questions |
| Walter |
Welcome and nice to see you here Horst |
| Andrew_DKing |
Welcome and thank you for the opportunity to talk with |
| Horst_Koehler |
where are you from Andrew? |
| Andrew_DKing |
Canada here |
| sharon |
I dont know you can you tell me something ABOUT you(in discus) |
| Horst_Koehler |
I have discus since 20 years and magazine I do comes from breeding
and selling discus...I did not want to continue explaining things so I
started a letter which got longer and longer until it turned into
Diskus Brief magazine |
| Andrew_DKing |
I just moved and set up a new showtank, I am still in the gorw-out
stage hoping to do small breeding soon |
| Horst_Koehler |
I breed in the winter and sell before summer because I have
turtles to care for before summer. I have a limited amount of pairs
now. I only sell in Germany (area I live in mostly because I do not
ship fish) |
| Andrew_DKing |
How many pairs do you have? |
| Horst_Koehler |
3 pairs now - all wild fish |
| Andrew_DKing |
do you prefer a special stain of wild? |
| Horst_Koehler |
yes, Andrew, I like the green striations (Tefe area) |
| sharon |
is your magazine in english |
| Horst_Koehler |
no sharon, I can not do that much work to turn it to english alone
(I tried it with 3 different US publishers) but could not bring in
sufficient subscribers to continue. I must have someone very good to
do this work and have not been successful finding that person as yet |
| Tom_Fowler |
Horst what direction do you think discus breeding will go in the
future what types |
| Horst_Koehler |
my personal opinion is that breding should be done with wild fish
(F1 and 2 generations) instead of excessive inbreeding for color. I
hope that is the direction it will go in because with all these
crossing, at the end of the day, we do not end up with the result that
we want regarding shape, brute behavior and strength of the fish
(immune system). |
| Tom_Fowler |
I agree with you |
| sharon |
what do you think about use ozonizer in tank show with discus |
| Horst_Koehler |
[sharon] if the tanks are taken care of properly, that equipment
is not needed - the fish should be the focus and not technical
devices. Water quality here in Germany is good so I have no personal
experience with having to use bad water. |
| SLY |
Hi Mr Koehler what do you think of the standard of the discus in
the competition this year? |
| Horst_Koehler |
it is medium - could be better but could also be worse the problem
is that many people hesitate to bring in fish because of the risk of
catching disease |
| SLY |
true what do you think of spotted discus winning the grand
champion again? can we say that this indicates that spotted discus is
the most popular and beautiful discus? |
| Horst_Koehler |
in the moment, probably yes Sly - very popular in Germany at the
moment |
| Tom_Fowler |
Horst do the wild types make better parents |
| Horst_Koehler |
not always at the beginning but afater one year there are more
eggs and they also care better for the babies |
| sharon |
do you agree that hexamita is number 1 enemy for discus |
| Horst_Koehler |
not only for discus but also my turtles have hex problem is there
is no effective medicine for hex you can only remove part of them and
keep maintaining high quality (less overcrowding, vitamins in food and
avoidance of fish who attack discus to reduce stress) |
| sharon |
this is new for me about turtles |
| Horst_Koehler |
fish can withstand a certain percent of hex and live with it if
these things are followed closely |
| sharon |
what do you think about use force feeding if you have fish with
hex |
| Horst_Koehler |
only with adult fish sharon |
| sharon |
so what I can do with small fish after I use metrogyl that some
times dont work |
| Horst_Koehler |
medical bath via water dosage 500-750mg per 100ltr - if this
doesn't help, there is unfortuantely no alternative at the moment... |
| Horst_Koehler |
there are some wonder drugs offered around here but no one knows
the compounds and so I would not recommend it's use |
| Horst_Koehler |
in some cases I have found that some similar drugs as metro with a
different chemical structure helps but there is no guarentee |
| SLY |
febendazole? |
| Horst_Koehler |
might be a possiblilty but I do not have the dosage with me... It
is a less effective medication than metro and it makes the water
turbid. |
| Horst_Koehler |
are these medications readily available in Israel without
prescription? |
| sharon |
no only prescription |
| sharon |
how mach time after the small fish have hex that the small fish is
gone(not growing) |
| Horst_Koehler |
they will always stay smaller than the ones without hex but they
are still fish so they should be taken care of |
| Tom_Fowler |
Horst what growth rate do you get from your wilds |
| Horst_Koehler |
between 16-18cm which is not very large size but is ok for me |
| sharon |
what I can do with fish that dont growing to be wonderful fish
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| Horst_Koehler |
here in germany there is a law against killing such fish and these
rules are getting stricter and stricter |
| Tom_Fowler |
I was thinking growth rate in fry |
| Horst_Koehler |
no figures available Tom but I would say close to F4-F5
generations about normal as most breeders. |
| sharon |
what size has your large discus |
| Horst_Koehler |
approx 18-19cm for the wild fish - asian\par variations are a
little larger but I am not breeding with them |
| Andrew_DKing |
I understand in Europe, the plated tank is becoming more popular,
aside from using bare bottom tanks for breeding do you use any planted
tank? |
| Horst_Koehler |
not for breeding. |
| Andrew_DKing |
In between breeding do you use planted tanks at all? |
| Horst_Koehler |
I have half-decorated - a single plant in a pot - root for
decoration and gravel only 1cm which is less than half an inch. |
| sharon |
is it true that pigeon blood are growing faster and more stronger
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| Horst_Koehler |
not all of them - there are always exceptions - sometimes they are
real little, sometimes there are real giants among them |
| Tom_Fowler |
Horst do I understand you are not allowed to cull fish fish in
germany under any circumstace |
| Horst_Koehler |
there are two exceptions... 1)if the fish is really so sick there
is no hope for it and 2) if they are heavily deformed. but it is not
allowed to cull fish just because you don't like color, shape or you
have too many. Nature protection laws are very strict and make it hard
sometimes on the hobby/breeder. So far not so bad with aquarium fish
but with reptiles it is. |
